These are the archives from 2010-2018 for the discussion forum hosted by the UNM Hobbit Society at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, NM, USA. The purpose of our group is to meet and associate with others interested in Tolkien, and to learn more about the author, his written works, and his sources through discussion, guest lectures and academically oriented activities. This blog is intended to expand discussion among UNM Hobbit Society members beyond what meeting times allow.
Sunday, April 17, 2011
Fate or Free Will?
In Thursday's debate I really think that the true winning argument would be combining the two sides: both destiny and free will play a part in Turin's story. Like Marilyn said in class, I think fate puts Turin on a path, but his choices decide which direction he sets off in. BUT I honestly think that Turin's life didn't have to end up being so terrible. Several times I think he is given a chance to "change his stars" (anyone who's seen A Knight's Tale should get this reference ;) ). Right before Gwindor dies, the elf basically tells Turin that if he doesn't go after Finduilas and rescue her, he's screwed. And Turin decides to be stubborn and not go after her. So it's choices like this one that make me think that there were opportunities (perhaps even divine chances from Iluvatar or something) for Turin to take control of his destiny and wrestle his way out of Morgoth's curse.
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