These are the archives from 2010-2018 for the discussion forum hosted by the UNM Hobbit Society at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, NM, USA. The purpose of our group is to meet and associate with others interested in Tolkien, and to learn more about the author, his written works, and his sources through discussion, guest lectures and academically oriented activities. This blog is intended to expand discussion among UNM Hobbit Society members beyond what meeting times allow.
Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Alternate Storylines
In
the introduction to Unfinished Tales,
Christopher Tolkien explains that he often will preserve various versions of
his father’s stories not because it is impossible to determine which ones have the
“correct” plots, but because he appreciates that in Arda “ancient traditions
[would be] handed down in diverse forms among different peoples through long
ages” (10). What do you think about the existence of these equally correct
alternate storylines? Do you find this variety distracting, or does it add more
depth to the stories?
2 comments:
I am a bit frustrated with there being alternate versions of the same stories. Even though I know better, when I read Tolkien I like to think that he is simply reporting history. All these things actually happened in the distant past and have been miraculously handed down to modern readers. Of course this is not the case. Tolkien was a writer with creative ideas who wasn't always sure how he wanted things to turn out. Even if it was actual history, sometimes there are different accounts of the same event. I'm sure U.S. history textbooks describe WWII very differently than German or Japanese textbooks. There is always another side to the story. But as a reader, I would prefer it if there was one cohesive, established account of what happened.
AAAAAHHHH indeterminacy of the text yes please.
Sorry, don't know what came over me. But this kind of stuff is super interesting to me, but I guess primarily in all my "backward" medievalist ways (where, to steal a joke from Michael Drout, "there are literally holes in the 'Beowulf' manuscript: THAT's indeterminacy for you!").
So the "indeterminacy of the text" is a literary theory we talk about (along with deconstruction and all that good stuff) when we discuss ambiguity in literature, and also editions and transmissions of texts.
So like in Tolkien, we get an older version of Eol and Aredhel where rape or forced marriage is more heavily implied than in later versions where she doesn't exactly say no (but admittedly, still creepy).
Indeterminacy of a text can also be found when something is written ambiguously. We might cite the same example of Eol and Aredhel (where it is ambiguous whether Aredhel's consent is given), or, I can't think of anything else right now apparently, but we have talked about this. The passages that are ambiguous, and what does this word "Doom" mean really, and why are there all these gaps and vagueness, etc.
So yes, I think that all these editions and scraps are essential. It's frustrating for a casual reader, but it's a veritable goldmine for people like us.
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