These are the archives from 2010-2018 for the discussion forum hosted by the UNM Hobbit Society at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, NM, USA. The purpose of our group is to meet and associate with others interested in Tolkien, and to learn more about the author, his written works, and his sources through discussion, guest lectures and academically oriented activities. This blog is intended to expand discussion among UNM Hobbit Society members beyond what meeting times allow.
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
Battles in Middle Earth
Now, it's entirely possible that I'm jumping the gun (I keep forgetting where we're supposed to stop reading and then suddenly I've finished the book again @.@), but I wanted to talk about some of the battles that Tolkien writes about, namely the Battle of Helm's Deep and Pellenor Fields. Mostly because I like them. :) But since he was actually in a war, I was wondering what you thought about how he writes them. Battles are notoriously difficult to write well, and I know some have criticized Lewis for being too brief with his battles, particularly in the one in Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe. If I'm not getting too far ahead of myself, I was wondering if you thought Tolkien's experience with war is reflected on how he writes war. For my part, I think he writes the resolutions and after effects better than the actual physical battles, and in a way, that makes sense.
2 comments:
I think being an infantryman influenced the perspective he chose to write the battles from. He mainly talks about certain individuals' perceptions and acts in battles rather then from an objective, overall veiw. I think this is a realistic way of writing battle scenes because the people actually in the battle only know what is going on in their vicinity, not the movements of entire armies.
Tolkien's portrayals of war lack the bravado and idealization that I've found in many other fantasy novels. First off, he lets the battles run their logical course instead of summarizing or using battle as a mere plot device. Secondly, as Elwing pointed out, he looks at war from the individual standpoint, which is important because an individual soldier has a limited perspective.
Lastly, I think that Tolkien really pinpoints the moments that make the battle scenes believable. He finds the moments in which chaos is intense, the moments when the senses take hold and death and gore overwhelm the individual, and also the moments of quiet, weariness, and relief. The war experience played a huge part in Tolkien's life, and I don't think he would want to leave his characters unscathed by the brutality of war.
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